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#1 Tuesday 8th May 2007 12:05:32

BigDave
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Teaching Cars & Bikes

Are there any instructors on here who teach both car and bike ?

I qualified as an ADI (Car) in February and am enjoying it so far, although with the warmer weather coming I am starting to miss riding a bike. I used to ride a Diversion 600 but sold it to fund a house move a few years back, and was very tempted by a Triumph Speed Triple a few weeks back...

I was wondering whether it was possible to be a bike instructor in the summer and then retreat into the car for the winter.

Anyone care to share their experiences of the above/advice ?

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#2 Tuesday 8th May 2007 21:53:33

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Re: Teaching Cars & Bikes

Hi Big Dave

Yes I do both although I do not have many cars learners at the moment.  I do  1 day a week doing CBT's for a local company.  Two of the other instructors also do cars as well.  It depends on if you have a local motorcycle company want to train you unless you want to set up your own.

Steve W wink

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You don't have dual controls on a bike though big_smile big_smile


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#3 Tuesday 8th May 2007 22:05:43

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I teach learners and have held a full bike licence for 6 months!  In a few years I would love to diversify and do CBT but need to keep gaining experience on the bike for another 2 1/2 years to be allowed to even think about it!  I haven't seen many female Bike instructors out there even in my limited experience so it may be worth persuing when the time is right.


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#4 Wednesday 9th May 2007 20:33:12

BigDave
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Re: Teaching Cars & Bikes

It depends on if you have a local motorcycle company want to train you unless you want to set up your own.

Ps You don't have dual controls on a bike though big_smile big_smile

I have spoken to the guy who runs one of the local Bike training schools and he mentioned that he trains people up to instruct - starting with CBT - so I may go back to him for a more in depth chat.

As for dual controls I'm sure I've got my daughters reins kicking around in the garage somewhere...

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#5 Wednesday 10th December 2008 20:11:44

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I am now Cheshire's Driver & Rider Training Centre.

Looking forward to running the two together smile


Driver & Rider Training Centre www.rjhgroup.co.uk ADI Approved Driving Instructor Grade 5 (Car) DAS Direct Access Scheme Instructor (Motorcycle) DSA Driving Standards Agency- ATB Authorised Training Body (Motorcycle) RPMT Register of Post-test Motorcycle Trainer

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#6 Thursday 22nd September 2011 07:36:18

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Re: Teaching Cars & Bikes

hi guys as above really, can you just confirm something for me. i am an ADI grade 6 and have had a bike licence for years. i spoke to the DSA yesterday and they said i can teach bikes using my car ADI. i then looked at some bike training sites and they talk about doing tests at cardinton etc. whos right? thx very much

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#7 Wednesday 28th September 2011 06:17:06

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I've been thinking about diversifying, perhaps into Bike training for a while. I'm inde so would want to be inde as a bike trainer too. Last rode a bike in 1997. For an inde bike trainer to do CBTs what do you do? rent out the location? If so how expensive is it? I did mine on a school yard.


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#8 Tuesday 18th October 2011 23:14:40

android
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Re: Teaching Cars & Bikes

Hi Folks,

I'm new to the site. Got here looking for information, having just qualified and registered for Fleet.

Seems this is quite an old thread but then there can't be that many doing both disciplines. I started on bikes as a DAS instructor 10 years ago and then followed that 4 years later with my ADI registration.

I did a lot of research into starting my own motorcycle ATB but when I crunched the numbers, I could not make it work to my satisfaction on paper.

I specialised doing intensive driving courses for most of my car instructing. I have also run a 'normal' car diary for 3 days a week and worked on a self-employed basis for a local Honda bike dealership ATB for 3 days. So I've done both full time and mixed both up as well.

Hoylake - Hi there! You need to establish an Approved Training Body for motorcycle instucting. It gets very expensive balanced against the income. That's if you want to do things properly. No matter how good an instructor you are / become, the bikes get a lot of wear and tear...   In fact everything that you invest your hard earned cash into gets worn out pretty damn fast. Running a car is like having one of Willy Wonkers everlasting gobstoppers by comparison!

The only route to independent motorcycle training is to become an advanced trainer. Then you don't need a training ground. Check out Register of Post test Motorcycle Trainers. The commercial problem with any advanced work is that there are IAM and RoSPA volunteers that do it for free. So to justify charging you may well need the RPMT qualification and have a very persuasive arguement as to why anyone should pay you.

I hope this puts some light on things.





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#9 Tuesday 18th October 2011 23:28:48

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Thx very much, that was very interesting. Can u confirm I am an ADI(cars) I have a full bike licence. Speaking to either the dvla or dsa, i forgot who now, said I could teach bikes as I have done my ADI and can teach any thing I have actualy sat a test in ie bikes, buses etc
Was the guy mistaken?

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#10 Wednesday 19th October 2011 08:26:00

hoylake
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Hi Android, thanks or the heads up. Doing something less profitable doesn't appeal smile
So i'll stick to adding to the 30M cars/drivers on Britain's roads.


http://www.sophiesdrivinglancaster.co.uk
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#11 Friday 13th January 2012 20:57:05

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Re: Teaching Cars & Bikes

JimA wrote:

Thx very much, that was very interesting. Can u confirm I am an ADI(cars) I have a full bike licence. Speaking to either the dvla or dsa, i forgot who now, said I could teach bikes as I have done my ADI and can teach any thing I have actualy sat a test in ie bikes, buses etc
Was the guy mistaken?

They're mistaken. Being an ADI has no more baring on becoming a bike instructor, than having a full bike licence does. You still need to go through the process of being 'down-trained' by an approved bike instructor, qualification at Cardington for CBT1, and qualified again for DAS at Cardington.

I've been bike instructing for 17 years, having come from the now defunct CSM, and been running my own ATB for 14 years. I qualified as an ADI about two years ago. In comparison, going through the ADI qualifying process was much easier than becoming an AMI. And for the record, I MUCH prefer teaching bikes... wink

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