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#1 Monday 5th December 2011 12:52:48

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anydriver.co.uk

Hi All

Who's heard of Anydriver. They are offering free fleet training it seems to good to be true. Is there any catch?

Thanks Tony


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#2 Monday 5th December 2011 20:33:11

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We (DING, local association) booked them for a meeting but had to cancel due to the riots. They get funding from somewhere to do the free fleet training, I think to qualify you have to have less than 5 GCSE's (something like that, don't quote me!).


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#3 Monday 5th December 2011 21:27:42

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They are genuine, but they are flooding the market with fleet trainers just as the large adi training companies have. Pretty soon the fleet trainers will be undercutting each other for new business, there's only so much work to go around, plus lots of companies have cut driver training to the bone because of the recession.


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#4 Tuesday 6th December 2011 00:22:15

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Unless they are an exceptional bunch of individuals, they will find out:
- that a fleet badge on its own won't necessarily open doors and get any work for them (fleet nanagers don't talk a green badge/fleet badge language) and the national biggie training companies often look for additional qualifications/entitlements and experience
- that, if they thought selling themselves was difficult in the learner market, it's no easier selling fleet assessments and training to companies who do not see the need for it
- that fleet day rates are not particularly exciting (no more than a rookie Grade 4 ADI can earn) unless you strike very lucky with an own-account client.
- that, with most fleet work, they will have to be prepared to travel, work, travel home and then write reports (long-ish days, therefore)
- that, all too often, they will have to put up with just half-days (with other A-list trainers getting the full days).
IF, however, they stick with it, get additional qual'ns they may well end up doing fleet full-time if that's what they eant and are suited to.
Most don't though.


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#5 Tuesday 6th December 2011 08:21:55

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Yeah would agree with Ralge, they then get a fleet check test with no experience of fleet and flunk it!

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#6 Wednesday 7th December 2011 00:07:30

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There is an issue with flooding the market with Fleet ADIs - not least of which is the promise of work they will get as a result.  In reality, this can be very difficult to secure.  Then there is fleet check test which if you have not experienced real fleet work could be difficult to do - many ADI grade 6s get downgraded when changing to fleet.  (Not that DSA appear to be able to assess Fleet as they have little experience like they do with learners)

Clearly a business which is getting funding, has an interest in getting as many people on board - It is a revenue stream which in an environment where money is tight with govt appears to be very accessible to those able to cash in on such an opportunity regardless of whether this will be beneficial.

Moving to the Fleet Register - The ADI then has to pay £125 for his/her fleet badge - The cost of this is questionable - what is the £125 for?  TO add you to the fleet register and send you a fleet badge.  You get a fleet check test which replaces your normal ADI check test (so the cost of this is included in your ADI fee).  The fleet register is a "cash cow" for DSA who do nothing other than issue a fleet badge for the money!

The fleet register has little credibilty with businesses or anyone else for that matter - Only ADIs (not all) know of its existence.  DSA do not promote the fleet register, they do not publicise it - if you search for it - all the DSA advertise is how ADIs can train to become Fleet ADIs.

DSA are more likely to promote the so called "advanced" training offered by IAM or ROSPA who absolutely do not break any of the laws on illegal instruction!!!! 

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#7 Wednesday 7th December 2011 09:23:48

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Thanks all for your input smile

It is something like I thought, however one more question if I wad to chose to follow this route. How will my check tests change. Will I need to take 1 or 2 check tests & the fleet check test how does it differ from the normal ADI check test?

Thanks for your time.

Tony


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#8 Wednesday 7th December 2011 09:52:58

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Thanks all for your input smile

It is something like I thought, however one more question if I wad to chose to follow this route. How will my check tests change. Will I need to take 1 or 2 check tests & the fleet check test how does it differ from the normal ADI check test?

Thanks for your time.

Tony

If you pass your (Fleet) Part 1,2 and 3 (they ARE different) and get entered onto the Fleet Register, you will be required to undergo a Fleet check test. This will fall due when your next regular check test is due.

The Fleet check test will also determine your normal ADI grade. In other words you do not need to undergo 2 separate check tests. When you receive your check test invitation, you will need to fill in the check box indicating that you wish to take a Fleet check test.

The other options are the same. You can opt to attend with a FLH or go for Roleplay. If you turn up with a learner, the examiner will perform a "normal" ADI check test and you will lose your Fleet entitlement.

The check test will take the form of an On Road Risk Assessment and you will be awarded your grade based upon your performance. As has been mooted earlier, the larger fleet training providers will not even consider using your services unless you are (at least) a Grade 5 + other quals such as e.g. RoSPA Gold


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#9 Wednesday 7th December 2011 14:32:29

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There is an issue with flooding the market with Fleet ADIs - not least of which is the promise of work they will get as a result.  In reality, this can be very difficult to secure.  Then there is fleet check test which if you have not experienced real fleet work could be difficult to do - many ADI grade 6s get downgraded when changing to fleet.  (Not that DSA appear to be able to assess Fleet as they have little experience like they do with learners)

Clearly a business which is getting funding, has an interest in getting as many people on board - It is a revenue stream which in an environment where money is tight with govt appears to be very accessible to those able to cash in on such an opportunity regardless of whether this will be beneficial.

Moving to the Fleet Register - The ADI then has to pay £125 for his/her fleet badge - The cost of this is questionable - what is the £125 for?  TO add you to the fleet register and send you a fleet badge.  You get a fleet check test which replaces your normal ADI check test (so the cost of this is included in your ADI fee).  The fleet register is a "cash cow" for DSA who do nothing other than issue a fleet badge for the money!

The fleet register has little credibilty with businesses or anyone else for that matter - Only ADIs (not all) know of its existence.  DSA do not promote the fleet register, they do not publicise it - if you search for it - all the DSA advertise is how ADIs can train to become Fleet ADIs.

DSA are more likely to promote the so called "advanced" training offered by IAM or ROSPA who absolutely do not break any of the laws on illegal instruction!!!!

Good post.

#10 Friday 9th December 2011 14:59:41

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Re: anydriver.co.uk

Unless they are an exceptional bunch of individuals, they will find out:
- that a fleet badge on its own won't necessarily open doors and get any work for them (fleet nanagers don't talk a green badge/fleet badge language) and the national biggie training companies often look for additional qualifications/entitlements and experience
- that, if they thought selling themselves was difficult in the learner market, it's no easier selling fleet assessments and training to companies who do not see the need for it
- that fleet day rates are not particularly exciting (no more than a rookie Grade 4 ADI can earn) unless you strike very lucky with an own-account client.
- that, with most fleet work, they will have to be prepared to travel, work, travel home and then write reports (long-ish days, therefore)
- that, all too often, they will have to put up with just half-days (with other A-list trainers getting the full days).
IF, however, they stick with it, get additional qual'ns they may well end up doing fleet full-time if that's what they eant and are suited to.
Most don't though.

Good post.

I have quite literally just got home for lunch (1.45) after setting off at 7.15am this morning for a 90 mile round trip to deliver just over 3 hours training. So a profit of about £10 per hour of my time!!

Would have been better spending the time with learners, but the plus is yet more experience which accounts for a lot with fleet, rather than the qualifications.

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