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#1 Tuesday 13th October 2009 21:36:36

pat19799
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DSA Approved

Hi,

Is there a way of finding out which vehicles are recommended by the DSA to be used as teaching vehicles or is it down to personal choice??

Regards

Pat


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#2 Thursday 22nd October 2009 21:00:30

m0bnd
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Re: DSA Approved

Hi,

Is there a way of finding out which vehicles are recommended by the DSA to be used as teaching vehicles or is it down to personal choice??

Regards

Pat

Can we have a 'sticky' that tells us of all the cars not 'approved' by the DSA for test?

Cheers Andy.

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#3 Friday 23rd October 2009 00:05:48

KevB
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Re: DSA Approved

The DSA have not published an online list of vehicles not suitable for test.

For that info you will need to contact     central.operations@dsa.gsi.gov.uk

They have published a list of recalls at http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Le … /DG_173040

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#4 Friday 23rd October 2009 07:33:54

Roadmaster
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Re: DSA Approved

Is there a way of finding out which vehicles are recommended by the DSA to be used as teaching vehicles or is it down to personal choice??

DSA cannot recommend any vehicle for training.  It is only concerned with testing.

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#5 Friday 23rd October 2009 09:51:09

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Re: DSA Approved

ADI News and the DIA mags have "training car data"  sections that show comparisons between different makes of vehicles suitable for driving instruction.

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#6 Friday 23rd October 2009 10:59:19

skoolbus
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The Toyota IQ was in the DIA until recently but listed with poor visibility.  The latest edition says its banned.  The worrying thing is there are 14 cars listed with poor visability, which is a worry.

I'd like to see the DSA assess all these cars and publish an approval list.

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#7 Wednesday 29th September 2010 19:12:33

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The Toyota IQ was in the DIA until recently but listed with poor visibility.  The latest edition says its banned.  The worrying thing is there are 14 cars listed with poor visability, which is a worry.

I'd like to see the DSA assess all these cars and publish an approval list.

I very much doubt if that will ever happen.  The cars they ban are cars wilth poor visibility from the passenger side.


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#8 Wednesday 29th September 2010 19:20:17

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DSA only banned the IQ following a complaint from an examiner.

It advises that if you have any concerns about a particular car you are buying to contact DSA to check if it's acceptable for test.

Now that advice wouldn't have been much use to the ADI who bought an IQ then found out weeks later that DSA were banning it.

There's even been a suggestion, and that's all it is up to now, that in future 2 door cars might be deemed unsuitable for checktests and maybe even driving  tests where a supervising examiner was going out.

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#9 Thursday 7th October 2010 13:48:32

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A fellow adi told me he contacted DSA as he wanted golf 1.4TSI 170 gt. He was told this was not suitable as it was gti? I am not sure about consistancy with this subject.  In respect of the IQ I think without reasonable rear seats, this does not allow for check tests or test sit ins, so I can see why it may not be suitable. Cars are very personal in terms of choice, they also have to do a hard job day in day out. I'm not sure an argument that a car has too big of an engine stacks up, if they are with an adi what is the issue? I actually feel its good for students to recognise the risks of using too much power and an element of restraint and control. Most ADIs enjoy driving, so why not have a car with some power to enjoy safely.

I can see why cars with very restricted view may make the test unfair on the student, as it is not a fair playing field otherwise.  However students will need to drive vans and cars with limited view at some point, so it is good practice to experience this with an adi.


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#10 Thursday 7th October 2010 14:07:01

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The IQ was banned because the examiner does not have any view to the right or behind the driver.  If you ever get the chance to sit in one you'll see just how bad it is.  Anyone buying one for driver training purposes needs their brain scanning.   

There used to be a school in Manchester which used Golf GTis so I don't think they are banned.   
DSA bans vehicles  for reasons of good observation, not power of engine.

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#11 Monday 16th May 2011 21:32:25

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Re: DSA Approved

I cut and pasted these cars from the dsa website, listed as cars not suitable to take one's test in:
•BMW Mini convertible
•Ford KA convertible
•Toyota iQ
•VW Beetle convertible

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#12 Saturday 9th July 2011 02:56:53

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I cut and pasted these cars from the dsa website, listed as cars not suitable to take one's test in:
•BMW Mini convertible
•Ford KA convertible
•Toyota iQ
•VW Beetle convertible

My insurance firm simply will not cover any tuition vehicle if it is a convertible.  I would imagine this is due to the lack of visibility caused by the roof in the closed position, rather than the possibility of the examiner getting wet.

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#13 Sunday 11th March 2012 19:20:54

neil adi
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i was also thinking about which car is suitable or not as i can`t find a list of cars we can use or even details of what is deemed as aceptable ,i.e
it must be a a 4/5 seat car ,not a 2 seat,not a convetable ,not a kit car .can anyone tell me where or if such a list of criteria exsisits

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#14 Sunday 11th March 2012 20:05:33

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